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Why the hell do people want the world to end in 2012 so damn bad?

There’s no Mayan prophecy, yet people are passionately arguing there is.

There’s absolutely no good reason to believe that such a prophecy would have any credibility if it did exist, yet people are animately claiming it will happen.

Why? Why are they so desperate to see the world end in 2012? Why are they so desperate for the world to end PERIOD?

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Sunday, July 24th, 2011 Prepper Survival 14 Comments

The end of the world… 4000 years of prophecy…?

The sacred Aztec calendar is properly called the Eagle Bowl. The amazingly accurate calendar has been in use in various forms for more than 2,000 years.

In the mythology of the Aztecs, the first age of mankind ended with the animals devouring humans. The second age was finished by wind, the third by fire, and the fourth by water. The present fifth epoch is called Nahui-Olin (Sun of Earthquake), which began in 3113 BC and will end on December 12, 2012. It will be the last destruction of human existence on Earth.

The date coincides with “the end of history” listed on the ancient Chinese oracle-calendar, the I Ching. (Dec 12, 2012)

The Mayan calendar is divided into Seven Ages of Man. The Mayan calendar comes to an end on Sunday, December 12, 2012. Only a few people will survive the catastrophe that ensues.

So… independently we have the Aztecs, the Chinese, the Mayans, Nostrodamis all saying the same date…

What are your opinions? Coincidence or more?
Just for the record though… I place no credibility in this one way or the other. I just think it’s interesting. A coworker was babbling about this today and I googled it… Since I had nothing "deeper" to ask I thought i’d run with this.

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Saturday, July 2nd, 2011 Prepper Survival 13 Comments

The end of the world… 4000 years of prophecy…?

The sacred Aztec calendar is properly called the Eagle Bowl. The amazingly accurate calendar has been in use in various forms for more than 2,000 years.

In the mythology of the Aztecs, the first age of mankind ended with the animals devouring humans. The second age was finished by wind, the third by fire, and the fourth by water. The present fifth epoch is called Nahui-Olin (Sun of Earthquake), which began in 3113 BC and will end on December 12, 2012. It will be the last destruction of human existence on Earth.

The date coincides with “the end of history” listed on the ancient Chinese oracle-calendar, the I Ching. (Dec 12, 2012)

The Mayan calendar is divided into Seven Ages of Man. The Mayan calendar comes to an end on Sunday, December 12, 2012. Only a few people will survive the catastrophe that ensues.

So… independently we have the Aztecs, the Chinese, the Mayans, Nostrodamis all saying the same date…

What are your opinions? Coincidence or more?
Just for the record though… I place no credibility in this one way or the other. I just think it’s interesting. A coworker was babbling about this today and I googled it… Since I had nothing "deeper" to ask I thought i’d run with this.

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Thursday, June 30th, 2011 Prepper Survival 4 Comments

Is there some concise and accurate web site dealing with this 2012 nonsense?

Most of us here in the astronomy forum feel the need to give people, especially the kids, some kind of reasonable answers to this continual inquiry. I think in another four years, that’s going to become somewhat of a drag.

So I was wondering if there was any really good web site which deals with this issue: all the claims related to it, and the best answers, in a simple, concise form. If not, would anyone here be willing to collaborate with me in making such a web site? We could really save ourselves a lot of wear and tear, (and frustration), in the future if we could just give a link.

Maybe a blog? Or something on 360? I’m not experienced in that sort of thing, but I would do it if I could get other people’s help.
Sure, Wayner, but in order to make it more credible, several respected contributors here should have their input. I could do it myself and revise it as others suggest, but I’d like it to be top quality from the start.
Quantum, I should have thought of that. I’ll go see what Phil has to say.
David, I’ll consider that a "maybe." I’ll e-mail you.
Carl, a good paragraph should support the topic sentence.
Rhsaunders, Good GAWD! Spent some time on YA, have ya?? You’re the kind of credibility I’m looking for. And of course, it would be done calmly and scientifically, first dealing with the premises of the claims and their inaccuracy. Nope, not trying to dsiprove anything here, just giving all sorts of good reasons not to lose any sleep over it. Many of these questioners are kids who have no experience with these things, like you and I have. (Too late now, you’re in my book.)
Superman, the prevalence of bunk on the Internet precludes the creation of legitimate sites? If so, then how is anyone supposed to be able to decide? They only see one side of the argument. Anyway, this was intended mainly as an expedient for the regular contributors to this forum. Look how often we use the Clavius link.
Starry, as soon as this came out I knew all the other doomsayers would piggyback onto it.
North star, I think a lot of kids, and probably some adults, really do come here wanting to hear from the scientific side. Many are moved by fear, not merely a need to validate their own beliefs, as with other topics.
Thanks, Remember. That will be useful. I’ll take all the links I can get, but finding good ones can be a task.
Bobby, I knew I could count on you. I’ll e-mail you soon.
Starry, Michael, and Remember: good links. Thanks.
Superman, thanks. Lots of sites and all the stuff. I don’t think that great dreams site missed a single myth or superstition from any culture on this planet. But it did have some fabulous crop designs that I’ve never seen before.

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Friday, March 25th, 2011 2012 Astrology 26 Comments

so, if the other 200+ doomsday prophecies failed, what makes the 2012 one so accurate?

i was just looking around on the inter-webs and i found this neat little site

http://www.abhota.info/index.htm

now, all of these doomsday events have obviously failed. so why does everyone insist that the 2012 is the true one? why does it have any more credibility than any of the others?

to me, it seems kind of selfish. why do you think something special would happen to you and not your great^23grandkids?

i’m looking for a doomsday believer on this one. care to share your thoughts?

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Friday, February 25th, 2011 Prepper Survival 5 Comments

According to scientists and astronomers, is the earth going to experience a polar shift in 2012?

Has there ever been an apocalyptic prophecy with as much credibility? Does the Winter Solstice 2012/Mayan end of the world Prophecy have any validity?

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Wednesday, December 1st, 2010 Mayan Calendar 12 Comments

2012: The Astronomy of Quetzalcoatl’s Return

Do books and videos on 2012 seem to be masses of bafflegab and incomprehensible diagrams? This video may help. It’s a follow-on to the series “Clearing up the Skies of 2012”, designed to give viewers the background needed to decide for themselves about the astronomical alignments of 2012. We’ll analyze Daniel Pinchbeck’s astronomy of 2012 as it applies to the important Maya site of Izapa, in Chiapas, Mexico, which some consider to be the source of the Long Count calendar. We’ll also discuss similar astronomical ideas from John Major Jenkins and Dr. Christine Page. You may also wish to see the web page www.2012hoax.org

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Tuesday, August 31st, 2010 2012 Astrology No Comments

2012 prophecy believers, riddle me this? 4 questions that will make you doubt prophecy's?

i have four questions for the people who actually believe the world will end.

1.) Why is this prophecy different from the rest? there have been thousands of end of days prophecy’s before today, and not one of them have come true. are you saying "no there haven’t, there haven’t been that many"? wrong, you just haven’t heard about them because the date passed, nothing happened, and that person (prophecy teller) had their credibility torn to shreds.

2.) were you some of the people making nuclear bomb shelters in 2000? many were convinced that every nuclear weapon was gonna go off because the computers were gonna reset their time or whatever. were you one of those people scared to death? why was that different from now.

3.)the Mayans were smart about astronomy or whatever, right? and that year is when planets align, right? well so what. every time my nuts align with the guy sitting next to me on the bus, does that mean the worlds gonna end?

4.)and also, why are people listening to what they say from back when they thought the world was flat, and earth was the center of the universe (metaphorical universe, they didn’t know other planets were planets, just lights in the sky)?

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Tuesday, August 24th, 2010 Prepper Survival 3 Comments

Can Jesus comeback on 12/25/2012?

According to Finerprints of the GOD and Jack Van Impe,
Maya, Inca Aztec Calendar Ends on 2012

Jack Van Impe has been speaking on the credibility the Aztec Calendar has.
Check this 2 minute Jack Van Impe Youtube who calculates the numbers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f3aRnkgOWs

Thoughts?

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Thursday, July 22nd, 2010 Aztec Calendar 41 Comments

Georgia Guidestones – What?

These stones have been messing up my mind for the past few…minutes. I can’t understand if they are just to serve as a piece of advice for all mankind, or as a prediction, like ‘the world is going to end, and whoever survives can use this as a guide’.
For an answer, you could explain in short but understandable terms what do these tablets are, what is their credibility, and if, since we’re at it, they have any relation to the 2012 hype.

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Thursday, July 22nd, 2010 Surviving 2012 1 Comment